John Setzler

That's a real bargain.

I understand what you are saying. Please elaborate on the "it won't". If you are telling me that I can do what I'm doing here now for a dramatically reduced cost, I'd love to hear about it.

Its unfortunate that you can't see this from my perspective. It's a money pit for me. If I take your advice, it will still be a money pit for me.

I don't disagree with any of that. I can speculate all day but it does me no good. I have been using this hosting company for nearly 18 years. I have never had any problems that I could trace back to the host. I don't believe the traffic to this website is significant enough to be causing performance problems. There is RARELY more than 5 to 8 registered members online here at any time. The guests are mostly landing here from various google searches. That number can be as high as 120-140 at certain times of day and maybe a little higher during the summer months. I limit guests search capabilities so they can't burden the site with a lot of searches. I am also coming to a point where the software I am using will no longer be supported by the company unless I am using their hosting. They are slowly making the system's requirements harder for me to meet through my provider by requiring higher versions of MySQL than are available. They will be refusing software upgrades to me at that point. It's all part of the business cycle. They wanna press me to spend more money from about every angle. It's the nature of business. I could move into some sort of situation that you describe for sure. Is it gonna save me money? I don't know but I doubt it. With site traffic here on a downward spiral and costs to run it going up, it just doesn't make sense for me to continue running. I have enjoyed it immensely but I think the money I spend here could be spent better somewhere else in terms of promoting my own brand.

I don't know what to think about what's happened here. Just as quickly as the site became basically unusable for over 10 days, it has started working again. I haven't had any issues accessing or using the site in the last 36 hours.

https://amzn.to/3OOWmqF This is the one I bought but I had to bend the flanges out to make it fit on the thick mount of the Joetisserie. It's not pretty but it works and it has worked well. The joetisserie mount for the motor is a NON STANDARD mount and it's difficult to find something that works without modifications.

I moderate that site and have several other moderators. I think we do an excellent job of moderating there. I am not going to keep this site up and running. It's a headache for me these days and its expensive. I'm tired of asking for donations here. Facebook has obsoleted sites like this one. The traffic here is weak and it continues to grow weaker. I hate it just as much as you do because I have a lot of time and effort invested here. It's just that the times and technology have left this place behind. This is the first time today I have been able to even connect to this site. I have just had enough of it. The amount of work I put into it these days is not worth it.

I moderate that site and have several other moderators. I think we do an excellent job of moderating there. I am not going to keep this site up and running. It's a headache for me these days and its expensive. I'm tired of asking for donations here. Facebook has obsoleted sites like this one. The traffic here is weak and it continues to grow weaker. I hate it just as much as you do because I have a lot of time and effort invested here. It's just that the times and technology have left this place behind. This is the first time today I have been able to even connect to this site. I have just had enough of it. The amount of work I put into it these days is not worth it.

Due to problems here and extended costs of trying to solve them, Kamado Guru will be closing shop on December 30, 2022. I appreciate the support you have given me. The traffic on this site has been on a steady decline over recent years as Facebook and other social media platforms have basically obsoleted the healthy existence of sites such as this one. The current issues with performance we are experiencing here are still largely unidentified. My hosting service won't give me any help beyond recommending upgrading to a higher performance level of service. I am already on a dedicated (non-shared) server. The host also won't guarantee that upgrading to that will solve the problems that have popped up here. The hosting service says that the software developer needs to be involved in solving these issues. The software developer says I need to let them host this website at a much higher cost than the upgrades from the host are going to cost. As you can see, no matter which route I take, its gonna be significantly more money out of pocket for me to continue. It's been a fun run, but it's time to cut my personal losses and re-focus on some new efforts. Thanks again.. John Setzler Kamado Guru Owner/Administrator

Update: The hosting service is only giving me one option and that is to upgrade to a higher performance level of service. I am not going to do that because they have told me that they don't know for sure if that is going to solve the problem. I am also definitely 100% not willing to spend any additional money to keep this site running. I am currently in the process of trying to restore a backup of the database I have from before the problem started to see if it gives us any relief. If that does not work, I will most likely be shutting down. Just a heads up....

I spoke with the hosting service this morning and they are, interestingly enough, not able to reproduce or see the problems that are happening here. They are recommending a service upgrade which is NOT going to happen due to the costs involved. We'll just wait this out and see if the problems continue.

This forum is experiencing problems on the host side. I am trying to get it sorted out... sorry for the inconveniences... John Setzler

It can make a huge difference. Part of this process is learning what 'probe tenderness' feels like. You will feel a much mor tender meat if you let it keep cooking. You are not gonna have a high amount of carryover cooking from cooking at 250F when you are cooking meats to these temperatures. If you think about it for a minute, you will realize that the internal temp of that meat will not go much higher than what you just cooked it to.... it might go a little higher but it physically can't go much over that. I'll do a test next time I cook a butt to demonstrate this idea...

I think your mistake was pulling it at 195. I have very rarely EVER had butts reach their tenderness potential at that temp. If you wanna cook to temperature, cook it to 203-205 and you will have better results most of the time.

I also pasted a response from another guy into your youtube video comments that are probably better than my own response....