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  1. I found it depends on what you are cooking. on my saffire grills kamado the grate was about 40 degrees higher than the dome so I went with the grate temp. for ribs and pork butts I went with grate but for chicken or turkey I used dome as it didnt really matter for that.
  2. I usually do an Asian Cole Slaw Roasted creamer potatoes with bacon, scallion, shredded cheese and sour cream, corn on the cob, quinoa salads are nice and some sort of pasta be it mac and cheese or Mediterranean pasta salad and corn bread. Costco has a bagged salad kit with kale, Brussel sprouts and a poppy seed dressing that pretty good. Black beans and corn. Also make homemade quick pickle of onion, garlic, cucumbers and peppers. Super easy and perfect for bbqs
  3. In a world with Amazon and the web we don't have to settle for locally available rubs. You can even pay for it online and mail to his NYC address. order all the rubs you want, online, have it sent to his address and have him bring it to you. Have him do it in advance so its sure to make it in time. I lived in NYC for over 30 years and have yet to see any decent rubs. Costco carries Pork Barrel rub but that's about it.
  4. I always use costco pork belly. This is my latest batch using a brine method. Brined for 8 days and smoked without any dry time. Used some celery salt in the cure. Smoked on a pellet grill using Maple Hickory Cherry wood pellets til 140 internal temp. Best bacon I've made. I doubt I'd dry cure anymore after this. Want to get heritage pork belly to see if there is a difference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  5. I have two pellet grills and have put a gasket on one of them. Putting a nomex gasket on my stainless steel Green Mountain Grill Jim Bowie's door doesn't completely seal the door. Some smoke does come out the door the stack and even the bucket drain spout. But it does lessen the leaks around the door and I sure as hell feel better about it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  6. I love a good grandma pizza. One of my favorite things to eat. Original Umbertos of New Hyde Park is about 10 minutes from me. IMHO has the best grandma pizza I have ever had. So good that the NY Giants had them delivered by plane on both of their resent SB appearances. Can't wait to see how yours turns out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  7. It doesn't look like a candied chicken. I'm sure it tasted as amazing as it looks. I add sugar to about everything I cook and it always turns out great. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  8. These are the Louisiana Grills Country Smoker and are made in North America. Depending on the year the controllers are different and newer have direct Grill capabilities. If it's the older model you can swap out for the new digital controllers. From my own research these grills are built with thicker metal but have less features than the LG 700 grills made in China. I think retail is 1100. My understanding is many people who have them are very happy with them. Go to pellethead.com they have forums dedicated to Danson Grills the parent co. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  9. That's probably the reasoning behind it. It's tough to position and market it for someone who loves Weber products and needs a Summit. Yeah. Very much like the Ranch. Someone was selling a ranch on FB marketplace for $400.00. Someone jumped on it before I could. Would have been nice to have a huge charcoal grill. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. Only time I ever let the charcoal burnout is if there isn't much left and I need a good cleaning. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  11. I've never used injections and wished I hadn't. But there have been a few cooks I wish I had injected. It really depends on the brisket. If I have the energy and time to inject I will. For me more important than injection is proper rest time. Depending on the method could be anywhere from 1 hr -3 plus hours. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  12. Yes I store is cheaper because they don't have to pay for shipping. Usually the price drops in the middle of June. Get one now and if it drops further you can get the additional discount Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  13. I inject about half the time using organic Better Than Bouillon but not full strength. Probably 50% more water and bit of the rub mixed in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. It's never too much and it's never enough. I would like to know what the sales numbers are for the Summit Grill. How many have they made and how many have sold? I know the Summit wasn't easy to get but maybe it's a function of production issues. Big companies with brilliant folks that are smarter and better pedigrees fudge up. Remember New Coke. Crystal Pepsi. McDonalds Pizza, tacos etc. mistakes happen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  15. I'm not taking any offense to this whatsoever. We are on the same page. I thank you for clarifying. Likewise I'm not passing judgement either. You have a very compelling argument. And I think the Weber Summit has achieved that. KJs have value because most folks don't realize that Kamado Cookers have been around for thousands of years. A few years back someone on a BBQ forum called another Kamado brand a BGE clone (it may have been Saffire Grills. Not sure ) I had to laugh because of the Kamados history in Asia From my stand point Weber has always been a quality for value product. No Weber product is going to break the bank (with the exception of the Ranch) and I'm speaking of their charcoal grills because their gas grills can get pricey. It represent tremendous functionality, quality and price. Isnt the cheapest charcoal grill but the value and quality speaks for itself. Jumping from a 22" kettle or Performer Pro grill to a Summit is a shock. And it's tough to make that jump and align yourself with a new philosophy when your brand represented value. Weber charcoal grills are within reach for everyone. The Ranch being the exception. But at 37" it doesn't resemble the Summit as much as the other kettle grills do. In fact until recently didn't know that the Ranch even existed. Never seen it at a store so my mind is trained to think of Weber charcoal products with in the $50-$400.00 range. You can even include the WSM. Initially when I first got into smoking I didn't want to spend that much even though it's a very good smoker and even at $400.00 represents tremendous value. Going from a 22" Kettle pro to wsm is going from $200 to $400.00. A jump most people can live with since you can use it like a 22" kettle and smoke. Others will say I can smoke just fine on my 22". But to be 5 times the cost of a 22" WSM and 10 times a 22" kettle pro and 20times a regular 22" is an issue,I think. 20 times a regular 22" Kettle doesn't sound right. How can something that looks so much like, uses the same fuel and uses the same materials cost so much more? If it cooks like nothing else on the planet then even at $3000.00 is a great value. I think it's an identity crisis. The Summit does all that a Kamado but does not want to identify as a Kamado. They don't want to be class leading they want their own category and charge whatever they want. Pricing seems arbitrary when you consider the precedent they set for their Charcoal line. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  16. Then you go buy one cuz I don't know anyone else besides BBM that owns one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  17. I believe you when you say you'd buy it again. And I'm sure it works as well as anything out there regardless of price. But perceived value is reality. Rarely is any manufactured product based exactly on design, material costs etc. Unfortunately it based on what people are willing to pay and in comparison to other products in its class: perceived value. If BGEs and other Kamado type grills were $2500 and up but the the Summit was $2000.00 it's perceived as a tremendous value. Cooks the same, won't crack or break if you drop it, light weight and transportable. It would be foolish not to get the Summit. But there is that thought in your head; did I just buy a 2k kettle with some better features? Im sure there is more to the development and manufacturing than I realize. But it's hard to imagine what that would be. Because I'm so familiar with the kettle I would be like hmmmm: If I wanted a Summit but didn't want to pay 2k could I possibly make one by fusing two kettles together? And even for yourself there is some tension there. You know it can and should be less because of what it resembles and what's out there. I know folks who pay anywhere from $500-$5000 for a pit and feel that haven't over paid at all. I know the answer that Weber gave you about not wanting to corner the Kamado market. And not hearing about what others have said in regards to its visual similarity to the kettle grills is, to me a curious statement. I don't know any business that doesn't want to corner a market if they can. And Weber def has the reputation, manufacturing and distribution to do so. And to state they haven't heard anything about the similarities to their kettle is crazy. This is from their website description: Experience the evolution of the iconic Kettle where charcoal grilling meets low-and-slow smoking. With a push of a button, coals are lit and the smell of barbecue will soon embrace the neighborhood. Whether smoking, grilling, or even baking, the Summit[emoji768] Charcoal Grilling Center is the answer to any craving and the ultimate backyard kitchen. If it doesn't resemble or isn't based on the kettle what is the evolution? How can it be The Iconic Kettle? And they even use the word Kettle. It's just my opinion but I think they are having a hard time justifying the price. Again. I'm not trying to justify your purchase but trying how I could justify my desire for one. When I first saw it I was like awesome! I want one! And the sales person told me it was 2k when I thought it would be about $1200.00. I had to rein in my excitement. Woah. Woah! Good thing is we have choices and will continue to have more. Thanks for your input and reviews. I know you open yourself up to criticism and don't want you to think I'm not appreciate of your point of view. If we're discussing the merits and demerits of cookers we have it better than 99% of the world. Keep the smoke rolling. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  18. Sorry if I came off too negatively on your post BBM. I love your videos and respect your opinion very much. However it's tough to get over the cost on something that literally builds on the back of what they already have without revolutionizing anything. I'm sure it works just as well and if not better than any Kamado out there. But I think you're making exactly my point. They tweaked something they have. It not revolutionary, the R&D has already been done by Kamados in general and probably by Akorn. To me, it looks like they took a 26" kettle and fused a 22" kettle to it and added a few convenience items. Does it justify $2000.00 dollars? I'm not sure. "It's a Kamado. It's a Kamado. It's a KaMAdo. What do people charge for Kamados? Let's charge that." That's how I feel that came up with the pricing. Admittedly, you have said they didn't have to charge that amount. I don't know what engineering challenges they had to overcome to produce this but strictly on design, materials and innovation it's a little bit more than I would like to spend. Personally have a hard time spending that kind of money, even if my decision is primarily based on perceived value. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  19. BBM this is one of the reasons I was confused by the Summit. It looked just like a bloated performer. And in terms of manufacturing and materials didn't think it justified the 2k price tag. I saw one at an appliance retailer and kicked the tires so to speak and if felt extremely light as if it was in League with a bigger Akorn or Kamander. The plastic wheels turned me off too. I get it the weight doesn't justify better wheels but the price does. To me it looked like Weber was trying to give us the same format but over charge by a ton. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  20. It's a beautiful tragedy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  21. He's probably just excited to be here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  22. I have a GMG Jim Bowie and I love it now. Initially it was a bit frustrating because I was chasing temps but now I just trust the system to do what it do. Great Grill at a great price. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  23. Lot of great ideas but didn't get exactly what I was asking for. Sold it to a friend that was looking to upgrade his medium BGE. I spent an entire day to pickup the grill. Had tolls, gas and food for me and kids. Not much left over. Unfortunately the only toys I am going to get are for the kids. with the wife due in 2 weeks it will most likely go to diapers and formula. I have my eye on the next great thing. I'll let you guys know. I love Kamados but always looking for bigger capacity. Doubt a KKs in the future but you never know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  24. If someone wants to set up freight I would be willing to help subsidize the shipping cost depending on cost. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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