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  1. I think it works best overall when the top vent is barely open. Like an eighth of an inch. I've gotten very steady temps that way. For the open/lid I think it's a matter of how long the lid is open and how long it takes to naturally get back to temp. If you have it set to 250, open the lid for 1 minute the temp could drop quite a bit. Even though it's still naturally rising when you close it the Billows might kick in too early and blow pretty consistently for too long which will make it shoot up more than it should. At 180/190 it probably wouldn't take very long for the temp to naturally get to 180/190 so wouldn't overshoot much. Would be nice if it could sense the temp is naturally rising and not kick in until it actually stops doing that. Open lid is definitely getting better but until it's perfected I'll just unplug the Billows if I need to open the lid, plug it back in and manually change the set temp lower so it doesn't kick in and then set it back to normal when it naturally gets back to temp (usually do that using the web app since I'm often on the computer). Kind of a pain but pretty easy and it's not like I'm lifting the lid that often on long cooks. Hardly at all. The web app is a great addition and I really like how they are dialing this thing in. I've been in contact with them when I've had issues and they are really taking time to address any issues and fix them (exactly how BETA apps should be done). When it's fully dialed in I think this setup will give the top competitors some serious competition.
  2. I have Android and I'm on version 0.0.71 which just came out last night. I'm not sure how you update a test app on IOS (I thought you could just go to the App store and see the latest version?) If you can't find a way I suppose you could delete the app and reinstall? Maybe they haven't released the new IOS version. Testing it out now. The new graph looks good (its different than the cloud graph but looks good on a phone). It seems to be a half degree lower than actual readings but figure that's a pretty easy fix.
  3. They just updated the new app last night. Says it has a new graph and firmware update support now. Make sure you have it and force close the app to reopen it from new. Looking forward to trying the new app tonight for some pork shoulders. Apparently the update replaces the placeholder graph. The website graph is real nice so hopefully similar to that.
  4. I just cooked a chicken with that firmware version v2.62 and it lost connection a few times (so a dud of an update) but they already released another firmware version v2.79. Doing two pork shoulders overnight tomorrow with the Billows so we'll see how it goes.
  5. I think it was just released. It should say version 2.62 if your on the latest release. I've experienced what you have as well. I think it's because it won't econnect if it loses a signal for a moment and restarting is the only way to get the connection back. Hopefully this fixes it. I had added a wifi extender which made dropouts infrequent but still occasssionally experienced it. We'll see if this fixes it. They are definitely spending time on the software side of things lately.
  6. In my experience that's usually the probe short circuiting and I just get a new one and try and be careful with them. Probe wires are kind of delicate it seems.
  7. Not sure if this is what you mean but you can turn off various graphs by clicking on them. I'm not sure if they've worked on the algorithm or if my process is better but I've been getting very steady temps lately. I changed a few things. I used to clamp the temperature gauge to the lid themometer (using alligator clips which fit right on the probe https://www.zoro.com/ideal-alligator-clip-non-insulated-pk4-770200l/i/G2079585/) Lately I've been attaching the alligator clip to the grate (directly over the drip pan which is closest to the temp the actual food is receiving). This works well if I have enough space between the meat and probe, not enough room if cooking two pork shoulders (I have a KJ classic). This cook was for ribs (only one rack of ribs so plenty of space). I notice the temp is quite a bit lower than the dome temp throughout the entire cook when I put it over the drip pan. They've added the open lid detection feature a while back but for a Kamado at least it's still not well implemented. Basically seems to shut off when it senses a rapid loss of temperature and then waits maybe a minute or two and fires back up so can easily overshoot your temp. I was cooking these ribs without wrapping so I had to baste them quite a bit. I unplugged the Billows when I did that and then set the temps on the billows manually to make sure it didn't kick in until I wanted it to. My cook was for 225 so after I opened it I lowered set temp to make sure the Billows wouldn't kick in until it got back up to 225 naturally. Occasionally I'd help it along by nudging the set temp a degree or two to nudge it along since it might take a while to get back to 225. Definitely not hands off but not much work since I just do it with the app. Pretty rock solid results though. Set temp was 225 and it never once went above 228 for the entire cook. At the very end when the temp starts dropping it's because I unhooked the Billows and shut the vents down before pulling em off the KJ.
  8. One thing I noticed is I had my other original app running as well and that was sending an alert too. I forced the old app to stop so just one was running. Not sure if your situation is the same. I've been keeping notes too but since it's BETA I'm going to hold off on reporting. A lot of the stuff is probably known, not implemented fully yet etc. The online monitoring looks like it will be pretty slick. If they can make this thing reliable and work out some of the glitches of the old setup I'll be a happy camper. They probably have several months of development before it's fully functional but like where this is going
  9. I think a lot of it has to do with how it was shipped. The last bag of B&B had probably the best sized pieces of any lump I've purchased and I've tried pretty much all of them (the top of the line FOGO, Jealous Devil etc..). I had to cut up a lot of the pieces because they were too large. I think fist size or smaller is ideal. It's not always like that. I've had some bags with smallish pieces but I've also had that with premium. I always feel the bag and move it around and listen for small pieces jangling around. Overall I think B&B is a great choice for lump.
  10. I created an account using the same username and password and then I got in
  11. I was told when we open the app we'll get a notification that a firmware update is available when it's ready to go. Apparently was going to go out last week but then they found a few other things they wanted to put in with it. So probably be updated soon. I've experienced the freeze scenario occasionally as well. Been testing this new app all day and no issues with that so far though. It's possible it could be fixed without a firmware fix depending on what's causing the freeze. Editing this. After going for many hours it lost internet connection even though the wifi signal was very strong. Had to turn the Signals off then on again and it was connected again. I had fired up the old app as well and it couldn't see it either. That does sound like it's the Signals itself. Hopefully the Firmware that's due out fixes that
  12. No I don't have the link. She had just told me to email her if I needed it. Since you already emailed them they'll probably get it to you soon. If so could you post it in this thread? Be good if they have multiple testers. Hopefully they've tightened up the open lid feature. They added that a while back but it's not implemented very well (at least for a Kamado). It can easily overshoot the temp since it doesn't wait long enough for the temp to climb before the fan kicks back in. I'm going to test that out tomorrow and see if they've worked on the algorithm. When the lid is closed (using current setup, not the new app etc.) I've been able to get very steady temperatures. I've had connection issues though and just a lot of little glitchy stuff. Hopefully they get this worked out since it's completely redone from the ground up.
  13. Do you have to get right over it to feel the heat or will you still feel it a little ways away? (I mean in general not just from the knees down) I heard one person say the heat doesn't radiate out much and shoots straight up. Also, how is it for sparks? I live in California with a big hill in my backyard and my uptight neighbors would be upset if I accidentally lit the neighborhood on fire.
  14. It makes great wings but if you use a dry rub it will just knock all the rub off. Works really well if it's marinated. Or if you cook it and add a rub after it's cooked. I got the Napolean basket. Works great. Kind of a tight fit on the classic so I got screws with a smaller handle (super easy to find at a hardware store) For whole chickens I personally think it comes out better spatchcocking it and cooking it. Comes out great on the rotisserie too of course. You can use pretty much any recipe. Just watch it on the sugar or you'll end up burning it. Also for chicken you'll want to bank the coals or the fat will end up burning the bird a bit. I really like the rotisserie for picanha, tri-tip, pork tenderloin, roasting coffee beans (can get a coffee basket for like $12 on Amazon).
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