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  1. I edited my post. I would not have to place it on top of grates, like you it would sit directly above coals... Do you find it significantly harder to clean?
  2. My Kamado came with porcelain coated steel grill grates. I want the ability to also cook on cast iron. I have to choose between simply buying a cast iron grill grate that is made to fit into my kamado, thus replacing the porcelain coated steel when I want to use it. Other option is to buy a cast iron griddle. This has more flexibility because it is two sided, one flat side and the other with the grates. Question is which to buy. Seems like the griddle is more bang for the buck... But do I lose out on anything by taking this approach. Similar to the cast iron grate, the
  3. Joe, I had the same questions and the best information I got was to buy a chimney cap with an 8'' diameter. This is the cheapest one I could find (which was still a rip off given the shipping @$35 total): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NY93LKA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Gets the job done though. If I was more patient I would have visted an HVAC store in my area, I bet they could get me one for a lot cheaper.
  4. Joe, here is the one you need to order: https://www.kickashbasket.com/store/product-detail.php?product_id=61 It is highly recommended by Kick Ash that you do not use this with fire starter port. See my post on it here and the conclusions I came to: In summary, setting the basket on top of the fire starter port which sits on top of the fire grate will lead to poor airflow according to kick ash. I bit the bullet and decided to remove the oem fire grate and starter port and simply just use the basket. I now use a propane torch to start it, which is nic
  5. John I am with you, I bought something very similar::: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B076HSB7MM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Thanks for the help.
  6. FYI I went to kick ash and they said that the BGE large divider will work in the Vision basket! So I will be buying the vision basket and bge large divider. I will also remove the OEM fire grate and use different means to start the charcoal.
  7. Similar. Different exterior pattern, stand assembly and thermometer. Inside you have better ceramic and the 2 level grate is 1 stainless one cast iron, instead of both stainless.
  8. Correct. But I lose the ability to use the electric charcoal starter port specific to the Vision grill. Because that piece is also connected fire grate. So by removing the OEM grate I no longer can use the electric charcoal starter port. But as Stile mentioned, simply placing the Kick Ash on top of the OEM grate will result in poor airflow. I think I will just bite the bullet and start the charcoal some other way.
  9. That's what my plan was to. But you're still having to fill the whole bowl with charcoal. Was thinking I could save some $ using only half the amount of charcoal If I was just cooking one steak or something. Just adds flexibility is my thinking.
  10. Easier removal of lump and potentially using the divider to segment the charcoal to one side.
  11. Also Can I just use the BGE Large basket and set it on top of the assembly? I want the BGE Large because it has the divider accessory for dividing coals to one side of grill. Here is a pick of the fire grate and electric starter pocket assembly: I do not understand why I cannot simply set a Kick Ash on top of this. And I do not want to remove the electric starter pocket. It might wobble a bit but that should not matter. How will the above effect grill performance?
  12. Vision Pro S here. Trying to figure out the best way to segment my charcoal to one side for indirect cooking, but am not seeing any vision specific products. What generic products work well? Or any vision specific product? I really want a kick ash basket, and kick ash makes an accessory for this but only for BGE and KJ. Here is one generic idea I saw but seems like a hassle to use: https://www.amazon.com/Stanbroil-Firebox-Divider-Charcoal-MiniMax/dp/B076BMK5NH/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_5?keywords=kamado+divider&qid=1555101089&s=gateway&sr=8-5-fkmrnull Here is the ki
  13. For those curious, here is what the Vision/Icon Rep came back with: The Icon 400 is the continuation of the Vision Signature Plaza. Production of the signature grill was ended and was shifted over to the Icon 400 when the new line was begun. The Icon line and the signature line both do not have as many reviews due to their rarity. While our professional and classic models are sold through major retailers such as Home Depot or Sam’s Club, these models are only really sold through independent retailers or smaller single location stores. The difficulty of access would defi
  14. Thank you for the replies guys. Seems to be similar issues that the Akorn runs into over time. Which really does not help me answer the question of where the $550 in added cost comes from.
  15. Looking at the Pro S at home depot vs a Signature Plaza for about $100 more (great deal that includes the accessories that do not come with the pro). Anyway thinking I will get the signature, but am not seeing anyone talking about these. Does anyone have experience with both and can tell me the differences and pros and cons. From what I know I think the Signature comes with the lava stone and charcoal lighter, has a different design, nicer tables and thicker ceramic. Also you can substitute any Icon 400 or bettter here. Icon are rebranded Vision Signature series. Mostly
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