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I don't know about you guys, but I know enough to know enough I know squat about intellectual property law. I hire those guys. It's a VERY specialized field.

You nailed it CC!  Golf is a game of inches, and patents are a game of a word or two....or even a digit. There are lawyers that specialize not just in patents, but patents concerning specific products or specific intellectual properties.

Ask Apple and Samsung about patent law; they'll refuse to answer without their respective attorneys on hand. We're six years into the legal battle between Apple and Samsung with no end in sight. Calling patent law complicated would be an understatement.

  

Kick ash basket is an awesome solution to a problem that never really existed in the first place lol.

It solves a problem called our need to find tools that help us to be a little lazier than we were the day before. It just makes life easier . By no means is the KAB a required accessory.

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Made my own today with a 24"X24" piece of expanded metal. Custom fit :)

Cooked Pizza tonight and had no trouble getting to 600. Will pull it tomorrow and see how it survived the heat.

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Quick get a patent on it:) looks good throw some handles on it from what I have seen they seem to come in very handy for holding other grates and deflectors

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Made my own today with a 24"X24" piece of expanded metal.   Custom fit  :)

 

Cooked Pizza tonight and had no trouble getting to 600.    Will pull it tomorrow and see how it survived the heat.   

 

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Are you going to add handles down the road? That looks awfully dangerous to grab without them.

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No plans to add handles.   It looks more dangerous that it actually is.  It's fairly heavy gauge steel and the top run is the finished side as it came in the sheet so it is not bad at all.   I just reach down and grab each side and lift it out.  I usually have gloves on when I am messing with it anyway but last night I got home late and was getting to grill for the third night in a row and I lifted it out with my bare hands, shook the ash out of it in my garden and was relighting the leftover charcoal within seconds.   Very convenient.  

 

I ended up getting another piece of the expanded metal to create a divider for when I use the Joetisserie.   All they had was a finer mesh than the original expanded metal I used so I took the leftover metal and put it in the bottom of the original basket to give me a tighter hole pattern.   Keeps all the small chunks in vs having them fall through to the ash tray.  The picture isn't very good but hopefully you can see what I did.   It is basically wedged in there but I did tie it at the top on both sides just in case it loosened up when it got hot.   Easy to remove by undoing the 2 ties that I had put in there.

 

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Has worked well for the couple/few cooks I have done on it.   I even left it in when I was cooking some chops over the weekend.  I put wood chunks in the small area by themselves with the charcoal lit in the big area.   The heat from the charcoal caused the chunks to smolder/smoke without burning them up in the higher heat I was cooking at.   Interesting experiment...

 

 

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Design patents are only as good as the paper they are written on, they cover the look of a design only, small changes get you around those easily, Utility patents are a little harder, but still fairly easy as you can now only have one independent claim on a patent, get around that claim and you are golden, the rest depend on something in the independent claim. As has been mentioned though it does come down to a word or two, and this is where a good patent attorney is worth his money, but it is also why a lot of patents are infringed on and not so much as cessation letter is sent, the cost can be monumental to fight one, and many companies have simply quit patenting unless they just have a new wiz bang gadget that will change the industry forever. 

 

Back the the subject of the KAB though, it is on my short list of upgrades needed.

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No plans to add handles.   It looks more dangerous that it actually is.  It's fairly heavy gauge steel and the top run is the finished side as it came in the sheet so it is not bad at all.   I just reach down and grab each side and lift it out.  I usually have gloves on when I am messing with it anyway but last night I got home late and was getting to grill for the third night in a row and I lifted it out with my bare hands, shook the ash out of it in my garden and was relighting the leftover charcoal within seconds.   Very convenient.  

 

I ended up getting another piece of the expanded metal to create a divider for when I use the Joetisserie.   All they had was a finer mesh than the original expanded metal I used so I took the leftover metal and put it in the bottom of the original basket to give me a tighter hole pattern.   Keeps all the small chunks in vs having them fall through to the ash tray.  The picture isn't very good but hopefully you can see what I did.   It is basically wedged in there but I did tie it at the top on both sides just in case it loosened up when it got hot.   Easy to remove by undoing the 2 ties that I had put in there.

 

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Has worked well for the couple/few cooks I have done on it.   I even left it in when I was cooking some chops over the weekend.  I put wood chunks in the small area by themselves with the charcoal lit in the big area.   The heat from the charcoal caused the chunks to smolder/smoke without burning them up in the higher heat I was cooking at.   Interesting experiment...

You'll have to let us know how it holds up overtime. It looks like you purchased a more industrial grade expanded steel. The cheape expanded stainless people buy from Home Depot was really designed for high temp.

People have assumptions the expanded steel will warp. I'm pretty sure there's different grade of stainless for different jobs.

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