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These three sections of the forum will be falling into the supporters only group within the next week.  If you are interested in becoming a supporter of Kamado Guru, you may do so via the "Support Subscription" link underneath the main logo of the site or by clicking here:

 

http://www.kamadoguru.com/subscriptions

 

Thanks to all of you who have supported our efforts here with financial contributions!

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It's not worth a dime, IMHO.

Lol you've been a member for less than a month and have made 10 posts but please share your expert opinion.  I for one understand that in the real world things cost money.  Im ok with the changes and plan on becoming a supporter soon because my cooking and knowledge of cooking has benifited greatly from this site.

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onewondershow, on 30 Jun 2016 - 12:32 AM, said:

 

WeberFan, on 29 Jun 2016 - 5:30 PM, said:

It's not worth a dime, IMHO.

Lol you've been a member for less than a month and have made 10 posts but please share your expert opinion.  I for one understand that in the real world things cost money.  Im ok with the changes and plan on becoming a supporter soon because my cooking and knowledge of cooking has benifited greatly from this site.

 

My expert opinion?  OK.

 

NO new people will EVER see these three sections, so they will never understand what they will may be missing.

 

Forums like this do, indeed, rely upon funding.  I'm far from a socialist so I understand the cost of a forum.   However, as it is with all forums like this, new folks come and longstanding members fade away.   For a website to grow and flourish it needs 'new members like me' to become active.  

 

What do you suppose the daily posting rate will be in those three sub-forums in six months time?   Likely half of what it was last month.   It will just be the Good Ol' Boys and a few, likely very few, new members.   That is how a forum 'taxes' itself out of relevancy.

 

Best of luck to you all.   I do wish you all well.  

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I’ve been on a variety of message boards the last decade and when an aggressive pricing model takes off it has a negative impact on attracting and retaining members. Don’t get me wrong because I know forums have upkeep cost, but $25 for 6 months is ridiculous.I personally wouldn't pay it because I've seen this exact situation play out before.Look in the mirror and at other members. The vast majority of you are over 50 years old, male, and single; after the summer is over this place will be a grave yard and bickering will (even more so) take hold. A stagnant message board always fails.

I’m 32, have a wife, 2 kids and 1 on the way, 3 dogs, 1 car payment, student loans, and a mortgage on a new construction house in the suburbs. If you plan on keeping and attracting more traffic you have to ensure that a variety of people can come around and feel included. Part of that inclusion is allowing people to talk about things that aren’t just cooker specific.

With that said I realize my place on this board because I haven’t paid money, not heavy poster, or shared that many pictures; but if you ever expect to turn lurkers into participants you have to maintain a healthy and diverse group of participants. There is no shortage of BBQ related cooking forums and most of us are participants at multiple sites, so chose your destiny wisely.

Sometimes when you threaten to take all your toys home and go home, your friends find better friends.

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I'll agree to some of the sentiments above, although this is a touchy subject for some. Some of you, who are generally decent seeming people, tend to get a little riled up when a newbie says they don't like the pricing model. I see both sides of the argument. As a new member, I would see the subscription as moot until I felt warm and fuzzy enough to support the site. As a long time member and active, daily poster, I still don't see where charging for a few non-essential sections and a few functions is worth $100 because the meat and potatoes is still free. John's playhouse, John's rules though. I'd be perfectly happy to give $25 to be a supporter, one time payment, and go about my way. The absolute truth to my decision though is that the Mrs. would probably not like me dropping $100 to support a website. If Facebook suddenly became a subscription service, I'd feel the same about her using/supporting it.

I don't know why it costs $100 to be a lifetime supporter, maybe John could break down how this money funds the site. Again, his playhouse, his rules. I think more people, myself included, would gladly become site supporters if we knew how the contribution was being used. If John is turning this into a for profit site, so be it, it's his right and I have no beef with that. If not, I don't see where it hurts to tell people how things are going behind the scenes and be transparent about it; either way, I see it as a positive and welcoming step because 99% of people are not going to put money where they see no value. Just my 2 cents. Take it as you wish, I warn you though, I don't want to see any of this stuff I've seen above directed at me. I contribute here and my contributions have helped build this site just as everyone else's have. Think before you hit "post" or you'll see a side of me I haven't shown here followed by a prompt " Peace out".

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I'll agree to some of the sentiments above, although this is a touchy subject for some. Some of you, who are generally decent seeming people, tend to get a little riled up when a newbie says they don't like the pricing model. I see both sides of the argument. As a new member, I would see the subscription as moot until I felt warm and fuzzy enough to support the site. As a long time member and active, daily poster, I still don't see where charging for a few non-essential sections and a few functions is worth $100 because the meat and potatoes is still free. John's playhouse, John's rules though. I'd be perfectly happy to give $25 to be a supporter, one time payment, and go about my way. The absolute truth to my decision though is that the Mrs. would probably not like me dropping $100 to support a website. If Facebook suddenly became a subscription service, I'd feel the same about her using/supporting it.

I don't know why it costs $100 to be a lifetime supporter, maybe John could break down how this money funds the site. Again, his playhouse, his rules. I think more people, myself included, would gladly become site supporters if we knew how the contribution was being used. If John is turning this into a for profit site, so be it, it's his right and I have no beef with that. If not, I don't see where it hurts to tell people how things are going behind the scenes and be transparent about it; either way, I see it as a positive and welcoming step because 99% of people are not going to put money where they see no value. Just my 2 cents. Take it as you wish, I warn you though, I don't want to see any of this stuff I've seen above directed at me. I contribute here and my contributions have helped build this site just as everyone else's have. Think before you hit "post" or you'll see a side of me I haven't shown here followed by a prompt " Peace out".

I made my donation. I doubt I will look at those areas any more than I use to. I was told not to post on the board so I stopped for some time but decided to start back but will not post very often since they must rub some people the wrong way.

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There is no reason for any member to get bent out of shape over John's decision, whether they support it or not. If a member finds enough worth on the forum then the cost of the membership is reasonable. Conversely, if there is not enough perceived worth then the cost is unreasonable. That is the end of it. 

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I can't believe anyone is upset over what has been moved behind the subscriber only curtain.  The real meat and taters of this site is still free to everyone.  The stuff that has been moved is 'nice' but its definitely non essential.  You would think I had restrited you to minimal content from these posts.  Seriously... lol

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I've been following the posting for those sub forums since the new rules have taken effect they have not had new post for about 24 hours...once the drama dies down over the changes even more time will lapse until they become un-used.

As I said before, I've been posting in different forums for years now and the only bigger blow you can give to a forum is locking the entire thing down to a pay service.

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Just to clarify, I'm not upset. I'm not sure who that is directed at but I don't take offense and just simply wanted to share my opinion on a matter that looks to be becoming a "You don't contribute here so shut up and go" stance from some of the paid members. As a longstanding non-supporting member, I value this site and everyone's contribution. Just because someone chooses to become a supporter doesn't mean it's cool to jab at others who aren't, even if you don't agree with their POV. This is a community and the content within is for everyone's benefit and as John pointed out, that's still free. No need to be mad, I just suggested a little transparency be introduced with the move.

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